What would Spain and Italy do with no F-35B?
Britain's new carriers will be big enough to operate a CATOBAR aircraft if there's no F-35B. France aren't involved anyway. But where does that leave Europe's other two carrier-operating nations?...
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Sorry what capability in Europe? Since the UK closed its sites and quit from CTOL CV's where in Europe is the facilities for cat and trap operations? I'm not sure France has them, though I think...
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As "Cavour" has almost the same length as "Foch", Italy might try to introduce an angled deck with a 160 meter landing strip plus two cats of 60 meters. This should be enough for jets in the...
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60m? Like on Clemenceau? BS MkV catapult could throw a 21ton machine off at roughly 110kts. Grippen is fine as a basis for a naval aircraft, but does need some work on it.
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PK wrote: As "Cavour" has almost the same length as "Foch", Italy might try to introduce an angled deck with a 160 meter landing strip plus two cats of 60 meters... Unforunately this is not true. Foch...
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I only wanted to show there was a (IMO) successful design that could serve as role model. And by the way, the Brazilians might be interested in some Skyhawk follow-on. I have no doubt the M346 could...
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President Sarkozy has apparently signed a deal with the Brazillians to transfer rafale technology, with a view to licence production probably. Doesn't take much to work out what may be replacing the...
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Sao Paulo in 10 years time will be a bit oldish to be refitted for Rafale, IMHO... But Brazil in next decade could be a richer country, thanks to the oil plants recently discovered (and by then oil...
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Sao Paolo has already operated Rafale for trials (when she was still in French hands). Her catapults and arrestor gear are quite capable of handling the aircraft (albeit with a reduced payload,...
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to operate a single aircraft for trial is not the same as operate a squadron for combat duties. Anyway Sao Paulo is already an old ship with an old steam powerplant etc etc. She could sail another...
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They also had to make some temporary modifications to launch the Rafale as well.
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Back to item: What could be done with "Cavour" without F-35B? - CTOL, as described above: 60m catapults, 160m landing strip, for M346 conversions or something completely new. - STOBAR with beefed-up...
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Depends what you want for this. Its possible using a parallel deck configuration to operate the likes of Rafale and Hornet but its likely you'd have to sacrifice in this scheme the ability to launch...
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PK wrote: Back to item: What could be done with "Cavour" without F-35B? - CTOL, as described above: 60m catapults, 160m landing strip, for M346 conversions or something completely new. - STOBAR with...
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Well to be a bit more precise: a LHA for (alleged) 1,4 bn EUR isn't exactly cheap, you could maybe get one "Orizzonte" and two "Juan Carlos I" for that money. It just wouldn't require even more invest...
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Zen9 wrote: ... Steam generation would be a problem, solveble but at the expense of space in the ship and fuel burn. Electro-magnetic catapults might take up less space. Still need fuel to generate...
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The Swedes are looking to produce a developed Grippen with stronger landing gear and a more powerful engine (among other things) so if theres a gap for such a thing there it is right now, and Italy or...
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I've posted this over at the Air Force forum the other day: SAAB today unvealed there development platform for Gripen Next Generation...
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Some other contender for Italy might be the "Tejas" now under development. As Fincantieri is already involved in develoment of the future indian aircraft carrier, Alenia might support HAL and develop...
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Some other contender for Italy might be the "Tejas" now under development. As Fincantieri is already involved in develoment of the future indian aircraft carrier, Alenia might support HAL and develop...
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